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> <channel><title>ProTech HVAC &#187; Inventing</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/category/inventing/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thehvacguru.com</link> <description>Innovative Solutions For Building Owners and Tradesmen</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:30:36 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2</generator> <item><title>Leaking Watts (not Webstone) Isolation Flanges</title><link>http://www.thehvacguru.com/leaking-watts-not-webstone-isolation-flanges/</link> <comments>http://www.thehvacguru.com/leaking-watts-not-webstone-isolation-flanges/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:04:51 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>JohnRocheleau</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Consumer Beware!]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Contractor Beware]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Inventing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Isolation Flanges]]></category> <category><![CDATA[JR's Blog]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.thehvacguru.com/?p=1510</guid> <description><![CDATA[Watts' China-made Isolation Flanges leak like a sieve. This is what can happen in a race-to-the-bottom of price. Don't get fooled! <a
href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/leaking-watts-not-webstone-isolation-flanges/">Continue reading</a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post deals with a subject that is both near and dear to my heart, as well as a thorn in my side &#8211; low-quality circulator isolation flanges like Watts that are made in China and can leak like a sieve.</p><p>When I invented the new breed of circulator flanges and valves in the 1990s, I did so with quality driving the design, not price. My first isolation flange prototype was actually fashioned from a Taco, Inc. 3/4&#8243; threaded bronze flange that was machined to press-fit with a machined 3/4&#8243; Apollo copper ball valve.</p><p>I licensed these flange and valve inventions to Taco in 1999. 6 weeks after Taco filed for a &#8220;Utility&#8221; patent on my behalf, Webstone Valves&#8217; Michael Reck applied for a provisional patent, then 2 weeks later filed another provisional patent application on modifications of my designs and started advertising them for sale in numerous trade journals. Reck failed to provide the United States Patent Office with &#8220;all known prior art&#8221; (mine) and was successful in getting a patent of very similar valve design.</p><p>What became the standard fare in the trade for isolation flanges for circulators, has everything to do with a race-to-the-bottom in price for manufacture of designs that appeal to tradesmen in price range. This desire for lowest manufacturing cost has lead to compromises in construction that result in leaking and downright dangerous valves.</p><p>These valves are Watts isolation flanges that leak, yet they were installed on 9/30/05.</p><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-1-11811-resized-for-web.jpg" title="This Watts isolation flange leaks and there is no packing nut to tighten in an attempt to stop the leak. This valve is 6 years old." class="shutterset_set_120" > <img
title="watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-1-11811-resized-for-web" alt="watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-1-11811-resized-for-web" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/thumbs/thumbs_watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-1-11811-resized-for-web.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-2-11811-resized-for-web.jpg" title="When I turned the valve to the off position water streamed out the valve stem area of the valve. The adjacent valve stems have been leaking for some time. The valves are 6 years old." class="shutterset_set_120" > <img
title="watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-2-11811-resized-for-web" alt="watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-2-11811-resized-for-web" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/thumbs/thumbs_watts-isolation-flanges-exhibit-2-11811-resized-for-web.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/sany0002-resized-for-web-11811.jpg" title="The valve stem packing is accomplished with O-rings and no packing nut - this approach to sealing a valve stem is taken purely from a manufacturing cost point of view: less machining, low cost O-ring and no packing nut." class="shutterset_set_120" > <img
title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/watts-isolation-flanges/thumbs/thumbs_sany0002-resized-for-web-11811.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
class='ngg-clear'></div></div><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Here is the YouTube video of the valve leaking out the packing o-ring around the valve stem. In the video I mistakenly identified the leaking valves as Webstone. They are in fact Watts&#8217; isolation flanges; not Webstone.</p><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/pure-pro-valve/pvf-ball-valve-resized.jpg" title="F.W. Webb's 2&quot; PVF Limited ball valve that a Webb employee showed me and told me of how it was connected to a 2&quot; black steel line and blew apart and whistled past a worker's head, in Exeter, NH. I photographed this at the Webb - Exeter branch in 2010." class="shutterset_set_122" > <img
title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/pure-pro-valve/thumbs/thumbs_pvf-ball-valve-resized.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/pure-pro-valve/pvf-ball-valve-2-resized.jpg" title="The race-to-the-bottom often includes making parts so cheap they break apart from the installation. &quot;China&quot; can be seen stamped on the handle. Of course, Webb doesn't actually make the valve, nor do they own the company who imported it - the story of that company is coming soon!" class="shutterset_set_122" > <img
title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/pure-pro-valve/thumbs/thumbs_pvf-ball-valve-2-resized.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
class='ngg-clear'></div></div><p>&nbsp;</p><p>This is my 1st isolation flange fashioned with a Taco threaded bronze flange and an Apollo copper ball valve.</p><div
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title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/my-1st-valve-prototype/thumbs/thumbs_sany0003-resized-for-web-11811.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/my-1st-valve-prototype/sany0002-resized-for-web-11811.jpg" title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" class="shutterset_set_121" > <img
title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/my-1st-valve-prototype/thumbs/thumbs_sany0002-resized-for-web-11811.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
class='ngg-clear'></div></div><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Here are my proprietary valve innovations all constructed with Apollo ball valve components &#8211; I just designed the valve bodies.</p><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange3-resized-82610.jpg" title="The 1st (and only) high quality bronze isolation flange in &quot;sweat&quot; configuration that I invented in 1998." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange3-resized-82610" alt="flange3-resized-82610" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange3-resized-82610.jpg" width="100" height="96" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange5-resized-82610.jpg" title="The 1st (and only) high quality bronze isolation flange in &quot;NPT&quot; - threaded configuration that I invented in 1998." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange5-resized-82610" alt="flange5-resized-82610" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange5-resized-82610.jpg" width="100" height="86" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange1-resized-82610.jpg" title="The 1st (and only) high quality bronze isolation flange in &quot;sweat&quot; configuration with purge port that I invented in 1998." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange1-resized-82610" alt="flange1-resized-82610" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange1-resized-82610.jpg" width="93" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange2-resized-82610.jpg" title="Once I thought this to be the best &quot;sweat&quot; circulator flange ever created - it had all the material in the right places and less heat sink than any other sweat flange on the market. This flange would be my 2nd patent issued." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange2-resized-82610" alt="flange2-resized-82610" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange2-resized-82610.jpg" width="100" height="66" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange4-resized-82610.jpg" title="A heavier ASTM version of my sweat flange." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange4-resized-82610" alt="flange4-resized-82610" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange4-resized-82610.jpg" width="66" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flangefamily-revision1-resized.jpg" title="Everyone of these designs have been mimicked by countless companies in the circulator and/or flange and valve industry in the USA and Canada." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flangefamily-revision1-resized" alt="flangefamily-revision1-resized" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flangefamily-revision1-resized.jpg" width="100" height="73" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/flange6-revision1-resized.jpg" title="This valve with purge port eliminates the need for a separate tee and pipe length." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="flange6-revision1-resized" alt="flange6-revision1-resized" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_flange6-revision1-resized.jpg" width="100" height="87" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/valves-flanges-core-boxes1.jpg" title="These are the very 1st patterns created for isolation flanges and valves with purge port - made by pattern maker Andrew Cutney, in Laconia, NH. Notice the core boxes in the foreground. The castings were poured by Lincoln Charles, in Franklin, NH. The castings were then machined by W.F. Lett Manufacturing, in Hopkinton, NH. All 3 of these companies no longer exist, thanks to the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs and businesses that went to China in the race -to-the-bottom of price...and true quality. The patterns for the threaded and sweat flanges, and the versa-turn through-bolt ratchet wrench can be seen in the lineup." class="shutterset_set_19" > <img
title="valves-flanges-core-boxes1" alt="valves-flanges-core-boxes1" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/flange-tite-line/thumbs/thumbs_valves-flanges-core-boxes1.jpg" width="100" height="75" /> </a></div></div><div
class='ngg-clear'></div></div><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I know there has been a mass defection by manufacturers and tradesmen alike toward inexpensive valves made in China, but fellow tradesmen, what you are doing is contributing to the demise of the valve industry and you are doing yourselves, your trade and your customers a huge disservice that is costing everyone. Meanwhile, we are shipping U.S. jobs overseas.</p><p>Once upon a time this trade and country was about quality and pride was displayed in the products we manufactured and in the moniker: Made in America. That time has returned!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>These are my latest isolation flange creations that are simply the best quality you can buy. And they are all proudly <strong><em>Made In America!</em></strong></p><div
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title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/guruisolationflanges/thumbs/thumbs_sany0054-resized-for-web-101311.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/guruisolationflanges/sany0033-resized-for-web-92911.jpg" title="This is an 1-1/2&quot; GuruStreetFlange perfectly soldered (using liquid flux and Silva-Brite solder) to a 72 series Apollo copper ball valve. A nickle-plated bronze handle tells the future technician what the isolation flange is for and who installed it." class="shutterset_set_123" > <img
title="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" alt="SANYO DIGITAL CAMERA" src="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/guruisolationflanges/thumbs/thumbs_sany0033-resized-for-web-92911.jpg" width="100" height="100" /> </a></div></div><div
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/wp-content/gallery/guruisolationflanges/bronzehvacguru.png" title="This is the highest possible quality isolation flange combination that exists today! This is truly a lifetime valve." class="shutterset_set_123" > <img
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href="http://www.thehvacguru.com/contact-us/" target="_blank">Contact</a> us if you would like a price and availability for GuruStreetFlanges, GuruStreetAccessoryTees and GuruHandles with your brand and valve designation on them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.thehvacguru.com/leaking-watts-not-webstone-isolation-flanges/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
